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	<title>Comments on: Testing a new spam blocker</title>
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	<description>Random musings of a Southern geek</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geek ramblings &#187; SpamValve update</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18333</link>
		<dc:creator>geek ramblings &#187; SpamValve update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 14:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gal @ 10:13 am  	 	 		 I've been pretty busy at work, so I haven't done much more work on my auto-firewall code in the past couple of days. But it seems to be holding [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gal @ 10:13 am<br />
 I&#8217;ve been pretty busy at work, so I haven&#8217;t done much more work on my auto-firewall code in the past couple of days. But it seems to be holding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18264</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2005 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely different from what SpamKarma does. I'm using an external tool to block repeated spam attempts at the TCP/IP level, before the web server ever sees the packets. This reduces load on the server, because Apache/PHP/MySQL never even know that any kind of request was even attempted.

However, my method still relies on the existing systems to identify the first few spam attempts. Once a particular host has attempted too many spammy things, it gets blocked by the firewall, and nothing else on the machine is going to see any kind of traffic from that source until the block expires.

So, SpamKarma (or any other spam detection tools) could be a part of an overall strategy along with my tools.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely different from what SpamKarma does. I&#8217;m using an external tool to block repeated spam attempts at the <acronym title='Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol'><span class='caps'><acronym title='Transmission Control Protocol'><span class='caps'>TCP</span></acronym>/IP</span></acronym> level, before the web server ever sees the packets. This reduces load on the server, because Apache/<acronym title='Php Hypertext Processor'><span class='caps'>PHP</span></acronym>/MySQL never even know that any kind of request was even attempted.</p>
<p>However, my method still relies on the existing systems to identify the first few spam attempts. Once a particular host has attempted too many spammy things, it gets blocked by the firewall, and nothing else on the machine is going to see any kind of traffic from that source until the block expires.</p>
<p>So, SpamKarma (or any other spam detection tools) could be a part of an overall strategy along with my tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Cloer</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18238</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Cloer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2005 15:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why reinvent the wheel? Spam Karma 2 in combination with Referrer Karma, both from &lt;a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/dev/" rel="nofollow"&gt;drDave&lt;/a&gt; kills them all. I've been running them on my site for quite a while and nothing even comes close. You might want to check them out...

But maybe you already know Dave's plug-ins and think that you've come up with a simpler or better concept. Then i would of course love to test yours.

Best regards, Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why reinvent the wheel? Spam Karma 2 in combination with Referrer Karma, both from <a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/dev/" >drDave</a> kills them all. I&#8217;ve been running them on my site for quite a while and nothing even comes close. You might want to check them out&#8230;</p>
<p>But maybe you already know Dave&#8217;s plug-ins and think that you&#8217;ve come up with a simpler or better concept. Then i would of course love to test yours.</p>
<p>Best regards, Thomas</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18201</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main scripts (&lt;code&gt;ipupdate&lt;/code&gt; and &lt;code&gt;ipmanage&lt;/code&gt;) are coded in Perl. It's really a very simple bit of code. The main tricky bit is parsing out the current firewall rules. And that's really not hard at all.

The main thing that's going to keep other people from using my code is that it requires your web server to have firewall support, and it requires you to have root access (in order to manipulate the firewall rules). 

On the 'pro' side, an admin with the resources could modify it to distribute things a bit. You could have instances of the &lt;code&gt;ipupdate&lt;/code&gt; piece running on different hosts, triggered by multiple services (web, mail, security logs, etc). They could all be configured to send updates to a common database. And they could also be modified to retrieve firewall state information from another, possibly centralized, source (like a border router).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main scripts (<code>ipupdate</code> and <code>ipmanage</code>) are coded in Perl. It&#8217;s really a very simple bit of code. The main tricky bit is parsing out the current firewall rules. And that&#8217;s really not hard at all.</p>
<p>The main thing that&#8217;s going to keep other people from using my code is that it requires your web server to have firewall support, and it requires you to have root access (in order to manipulate the firewall rules). </p>
<p>On the &#8216;pro&#8217; side, an admin with the resources could modify it to distribute things a bit. You could have instances of the <code>ipupdate</code> piece running on different hosts, triggered by multiple services (web, mail, security logs, etc). They could all be configured to send updates to a common database. And they could also be modified to retrieve firewall state information from another, possibly centralized, source (like a border router).</p>
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		<title>By: w00kie</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18199</link>
		<dc:creator>w00kie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what kind of language are you using for these scripts of yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what kind of language are you using for these scripts of yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/03/testing-a-new-spam-blocker/comment-page-1#comment-18193</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: There are currently over 150 IP numbers in the database. 84 rules in the firewall. 77 of those are repeat offenders. Approxminately 10,000 spam attempts blocked. Woot.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: There are currently over 150 IP numbers in the database. 84 rules in the firewall. 77 of those are repeat offenders. Approxminately 10,000 spam attempts blocked. Woot.</p>
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