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	<title>Comments on: SpamValve update</title>
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	<description>Random musings of a Southern geek</description>
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		<title>By: test</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-20240</link>
		<dc:creator>test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2005 10:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test</description>
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		<title>By: geek ramblings &#187; SpamValve Testers Wanted</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-19666</link>
		<dc:creator>geek ramblings &#187; SpamValve Testers Wanted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 01:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8212; Dougal @ 9:34 pm  	 	 		 I think I'm almost ready to let some other people  bang on SpamValve. I want to get a closed group of users to try it out and give me some feedba [...]</description>
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 I think I&#8217;m almost ready to let some other people  bang on SpamValve. I want to get a closed group of users to try it out and give me some feedba [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Wild-Smith</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18380</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Wild-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 11:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray is the standard American usage.. because you all are lazy and couldn't cope with more than one word for the same thing ;)

However the usage over here in the UK is Grey, but Gray is normally the name form - however its not 'wrong' to use Gray, just unusual.

So classically its more correct (and universal) to use Grey, but Gray is acceptable. The difference is actually in inflection. Gray and Grey should be pronounced subtley differently, relating to their different accent evolution, but no-one really does. Gray is more grAYyy and Grey is more grREy, but its subtle.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray is the standard American usage.. because you all are lazy and couldn&#8217;t cope with more than one word for the same thing <img src='http://dougal.gunters.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However the usage over here in the UK is Grey, but Gray is normally the name form - however its not &#8216;wrong&#8217; to use Gray, just unusual.</p>
<p>So classically its more correct (and universal) to use Grey, but Gray is acceptable. The difference is actually in inflection. Gray and Grey should be pronounced subtley differently, relating to their different accent evolution, but no-one really does. Gray is more grAYyy and Grey is more grREy, but its subtle.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18348</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It'd be especially nice if the command line stuff could be translated to PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d be especially nice if the command line stuff could be translated to <acronym title='Php Hypertext Processor'><span class='caps'>PHP</span></acronym>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18345</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've still got my database authentication information hardcoded into the perl scripts at the moment. Some file and command paths are also hardcoded, and need to be moved into configuration variables. When I get a chance to refactor the code, I'll make it public.

I'm hoping that once I've released it, people will submit patches for systems that use other firewall systems besides &lt;code&gt;ipfw&lt;/code&gt; (&lt;code&gt;ipchains&lt;/code&gt;, for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve still got my database authentication information hardcoded into the perl scripts at the moment. Some file and command paths are also hardcoded, and need to be moved into configuration variables. When I get a chance to refactor the code, I&#8217;ll make it public.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that once I&#8217;ve released it, people will submit patches for systems that use other firewall systems besides <code>ipfw</code> (<code>ipchains</code>, for example).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18344</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not check it in to the plugin repository and get some more eyes on it?</description>
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		<title>By: Anton Sherwood</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18341</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the distinctive American spellings were invented or standardized by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Webster" rel="nofollow"&gt;Noah Webster&lt;/a&gt;.  Generally, the Imperial spelling follows etymology (though there are exceptions: &lt;i&gt;defen&lt;b&gt;c&lt;/b&gt;e&lt;/i&gt;, Latin &lt;i&gt;d&#234;f&#234;n&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;um&lt;/i&gt;) and the American spelling follows pronunciation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the distinctive American spellings were invented or standardized by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Webster" >Noah Webster</a>.  Generally, the Imperial spelling follows etymology (though there are exceptions: <i>defen<b>c</b>e</i>, Latin <i>d&ecirc;f&ecirc;n<b>s</b>um</i>) and the American spelling follows pronunciation.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18340</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fx: One of the first things I put into the code, before I even started on the blocking code, was a whitelist :) I whitelist the local network block, localhost, and a few other things. I'm pretty sure that spoofed internal IPs would be blocked by the gateway router anyhow (it should be configured to know that internal IPs don't come in on the externtal interface). But a sort of DoS via spoofed IP numbers is still a danger. Until I see evidence that it's actually happening, it's a danger I'm willing to live with.

Larry and fx: I seem to switch back and forth between 'gray' and 'grey'. I've never been certain which spelling I should consider 'more correct'. I seem to have used 'gray' more often, despite the fact that I sometimes think that 'grey' is more correct, and that 'Gray' should be somebody's surname.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fx: One of the first things I put into the code, before I even started on the blocking code, was a whitelist <img src='http://dougal.gunters.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I whitelist the local network block, localhost, and a few other things. I&#8217;m pretty sure that spoofed internal IPs would be blocked by the gateway router anyhow (it should be configured to know that internal IPs don&#8217;t come in on the externtal interface). But a sort of <acronym title='Denial of Service'><span class='caps'>DoS</span></acronym> via spoofed IP numbers is still a danger. Until I see evidence that it&#8217;s actually happening, it&#8217;s a danger I&#8217;m willing to live with.</p>
<p>Larry and fx: I seem to switch back and forth between &#8216;gray&#8217; and &#8216;grey&#8217;. I&#8217;ve never been certain which spelling I should consider &#8216;more correct&#8217;. I seem to have used &#8216;gray&#8217; more often, despite the fact that I sometimes think that &#8216;grey&#8217; is more correct, and that &#8216;Gray&#8217; should be somebody&#8217;s surname.</p>
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		<title>By: fx</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18339</link>
		<dc:creator>fx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>afaik grey is more widely used, but given that the whole of america goes with gray its probably got more weight</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2005/05/06/spamvalve-update/comment-page-1#comment-18338</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Gray" is a color and "grey" is the British spelling of "gray".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gray&#8221; is a color and &#8220;grey&#8221; is the British spelling of &#8220;gray&#8221;.</p>
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