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	<title>Comments on: Internet Explorer 8: This is progress?</title>
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	<description>Random musings of a Southern geek</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Apoorv Khatreja</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-161047</link>
		<dc:creator>Apoorv Khatreja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE8 does not officially pass the Acid2 test. This has been debated and discussed, which was inconclusive.

http://rutsum.com/internet-explorer-8-beta-fails-the-acid2-and-acid3-test</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE8 does not officially pass the Acid2 test. This has been debated and discussed, which was inconclusive.</p>
<p><a href="http://rutsum.com/internet-explorer-8-beta-fails-the-acid2-and-acid3-test" >http://rutsum.com/internet-explorer-8-beta-fails-the-acid2-and-acid3-test</a></p>
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		<title>By: E-Dribble &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MS; Today&#8217;s King Midas&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160845</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Dribble &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MS; Today&#8217;s King Midas&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web development community is having a field day (2) with the news of the browser. The standard media outlets are doing what they always do. They make [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kirk M</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160843</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take heart Doug, MS just put on their tootoo, pirouetted 180 degrees and decided earlier today (yesterday?) that their so called "Super Standards" mode (the web standards compliant mode) will now be on by default and those website developers that code strictly for IE 7.0 and prior will be the ones to add a META tag to their websites in order to invoke IE 8.0's "quirks" mode instead of the other way around if they want their MS compliant website to render properly in IE 8.

Or so they say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take heart Doug, MS just put on their tootoo, pirouetted 180 degrees and decided earlier today (yesterday?) that their so called &#8220;Super Standards&#8221; mode (the web standards compliant mode) will now be on by default and those website developers that code strictly for <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> 7.0 and prior will be the ones to add a META tag to their websites in order to invoke <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> 8.0&#8217;s &#8220;quirks&#8221; mode instead of the other way around if they want their MS compliant website to render properly in <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> 8.</p>
<p>Or so they say.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not any more! Standards mode is now the default, woohoo!
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not any more! Standards mode is now the default, woohoo!<br />
<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx" >http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Billee D.</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160815</link>
		<dc:creator>Billee D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still a little uncertain about how I feel with this situation. I know that it bugs the hell out of me to think that I have to add another tag to my sites (along with the conditional comments so that "if lte IE6" works too). How this can be seen as progress is eluding me. I agree with Dougal though; break the web! Make those lazy-arsed "designers" update their skills and the web sites that they build to match the rest of the 21st century. I remember a time when IE had the best CSS support and now it has the worst. Either innovate or get off the pot, Mr. Gates.

I don't think that I have ever despised an inanimate object so much as I do IE. 

Thanks Dougal for another great read. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still a little uncertain about how I feel with this situation. I know that it bugs the hell out of me to think that I have to add another tag to my sites (along with the conditional comments so that &#8220;if lte <acronym title='Internet Explorer 6'><span class='caps'>IE6</span></acronym>&#8243; works too). How this can be seen as progress is eluding me. I agree with Dougal though; break the web! Make those lazy-arsed &#8220;designers&#8221; update their skills and the web sites that they build to match the rest of the 21st century. I remember a time when <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> had the best <acronym title='Cascading Style Sheets'><span class='caps'>CSS</span></acronym> support and now it has the worst. Either innovate or get off the pot, Mr. Gates.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that I have ever despised an inanimate object so much as I do <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym>. </p>
<p>Thanks Dougal for another great read. <img src='http://dougal.gunters.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: quriksmode</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160787</link>
		<dc:creator>quriksmode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cant believe another IE is on the way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant believe another <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> is on the way!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Johnston</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160762</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft and IE are still following the same old track. Instead of finally conforming to web standards and accepting that not everyone uses IE they still tend to design their own standards, that are usually faulty and aim at domination of a single browser. Judging from the speed with which Firefox is winning customers the Microsoft's stratefy isn't even efficient from the vendor's point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft and <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> are still following the same old track. Instead of finally conforming to web standards and accepting that not everyone uses <acronym title='Internet Explorer'><span class='caps'>IE</span></acronym> they still tend to design their own standards, that are usually faulty and aim at domination of a single browser. Judging from the speed with which Firefox is winning customers the Microsoft&#8217;s stratefy isn&#8217;t even efficient from the vendor&#8217;s point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Krassenstein</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160752</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Krassenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progress?  Yes!  Better then Firefox?  No!</description>
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		<title>By: Around the web &#124; alexking.org</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160751</link>
		<dc:creator>Around the web &#124; alexking.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Internet Explorer 8: This is progress? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rainer</title>
		<link>http://dougal.gunters.org/blog/2008/01/23/ie8-for-better-and-worse#comment-160745</link>
		<dc:creator>Rainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another outrageous outcome of Microsofts lordly conduct. Everything they do is fighting any open standard to produce new dependent involuntarily customers. And as usual they do harm in the name of "good-will".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another outrageous outcome of Microsofts lordly conduct. Everything they do is fighting any open standard to produce new dependent involuntarily customers. And as usual they do harm in the name of &#8220;good-will&#8221;.</p>
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